Se acabo la Prioridad

Eso. Los monstruos de efectos de igniiciionn ya no tendran la ventaja de tener prioridad para activar sus efectos como link de cadena 1. Duro golpe antes del nacional para. Dark Armed, Juudgment, Brionac, Zenmaiighty.

Si algun Juez quiere poner el mail de Julia, q lo haga, yoo toy del cel y no puedo...

Que bomba...

Hello judges!
If you have not already heard, we have made some updates to the Gameplay sections of www.yugioh-card.com
– there is now an Advanced Rules Information section. You can access it
by going to the “Gameplay” link button, and choosing “Advanced Rules
Information” from the drop-down menu.
(French, German, Italian, and Spanish versions of this are coming, but not quite ready yet.)
Please do look it over, as it contains information you will need to know. There is also an article explaining it posted at http://www.konami.com/yugioh/articles/?p=3799.
As noted in this article, these rules will change how you play the Yu-Gi-Oh! TRADING CARD GAME. These rules take effect immediately.

Judges,
please apply these rules starting today, in your events. Expect to
provide guidance to your players, by printing and carrying copies of the
Fast Effect Timing chart and guide, and referring to them when needed.
A copy of the Strategy Site article would also be useful to have.

It
will take a while for the information to spread, so please do your part
to help by carefully reading and reviewing the information, and
answering players questions correctly. The flow chart
might look daunting at first, but it will quickly become second-nature.
Keep it handy at first so everyone understands, but you might rapidly
find yourself referring to it less and less.
And finally, a message from R&D:
“One
more thing: everyone's lives will get a little easier if you please
stop using the word 'priority'. It has become largely a meaningless term
that wasn't being used properly anyway. So it's best to throw it on the
scrapheap. As for page 42 of the rulebook, there's some good basic info
there on how civilized people politely play a card game, but please
don't read anything technical into it at this time. We'll probably be
revising that at some point in the future, although the Samurai Warlords Structure Deck rulebook will still be the older version”.

We’re
looking forward to future additions to this section, and hope the
information provided will be of great use to you as you judge.

Thanks again for all your hard work!

Julia
Julia Hedberg
Judge Manager, Card Business
Konami Digital Entertainment, Inc.

us-judgesupport@konami.com


El mail textual.

Ben Dave remarcandoo lo mportante. Las reglas cambian a partir de hoy!

Otra cosa q anduve buscando, Veiler detiene al conejo ahora, como les quedo el ojo?

no hay problema, tengo los comunes de pobres todavia jaj

Ya era hora =P
El precio de Veiler va a subir hasta el infinito y yo todavia no la tengo D:

Che y ahora como es? Activo el efecto de... BOTOOMLESS .
Osea que le cabe el trozo hasta a la wonder magician y a hyperion... Ahora a todo le cabe el trozo e.e

una cosa son los efectos trigger y otra los ignition, a hyperion le cabe, a magician no.

joaco_canalla escribió:una cosa son los efectos trigger y otra los ignition, a hyperion le cabe, a magician no.

wow es bueno saber eso D:. Osea que a los insectors le cabe el trap hole y demas no? Lo mismo con el hunter y el conejo

Que VERGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

KONAMI del orto deja de trollearme por dios!

Q baje dolka quiero jugar evols >.<'

David escribió:Q baje dolka quiero jugar evols >.<'

Konami, te exigimos un reprint xD

Las unicas cartas que realmente aumentan en importancia son: Compulsory y Veiler.

UNa lista de las cartas afectadas, entre las ams significativas, obvio no voy a poner todas...

Card Trooper
Dark Armed Dragon
Dark Grepher
Demise, King of Armageddon
Dimensional Alchemist
Dragunity Knight - Gae Dearg
Master Hyperion
Mind Master
Superancient Deepsea King Coelacanth
Tragoedia
Worm King
Worm Queen
Worm Zero
Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon
Judgment Dragon
Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner
Chaos Sorcerer
Lonefire Blossom
XX-Saber Faultroll
XX-Saber Gottoms
Scrap Golem
Scrap Dragon
Scrap Twin Dragon
Ally of Justice Decisive Armor
Ancient Fairy Dragon
Armory Arm
Dark End Dragon
Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
Gungnir, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
Junk Archer
Karakuri Shogun mdl 00 Burei
Blackwing - Gale the Whirlwind
Blackwing - Sirocco the Dawn
Infernity Mirage
Hundred-Eyes Dragon
Infernity Doom Dragon
Hand of the Six Samurai
Legendary Six Samurai - Mizuho
Gravekeeper's Descendant
Elemental Hero Prisma
Test Tiger
Rescue Rabbit
Wind-Up Carrier Zenmaighty
Wind-Up Hunter
Number 17: Leviathan Dragon
Number 20: Giga Brilliant
Leviair the Sea Dragon
Adreus, Keeper of the Génesis
Todos los Inzektors

Algunos ejemplos de situaciones:

Jinzo (efecto continuo, desde que toca el campo su efecto ya esta presente y no puede ser negado por cartas que nieguen la activacion de un efecto como la War Chariot o el Heraldo naranja)
En este caso a este tipo no le pueden activar Botomless ya que este no niega invocación y desde que toca el campo el efecto de Jinzo ya esta presente.
Stardust Dragon (Efecto Quick, Trigger: este solo se activa en respuesta a alguna acción especifica del oponente, en este caso es a la destrucción de cartas, solo puedes activarlo en esa circunstancia, es lo que te permite distinguir si es un mounstro de Trigger o no) Si invocas a tu stardust y le activan botomless, puedes activar su efecto para tributarlo y regresarlo al final del turno, ya que sin importan la prioridad, activas el efecto en respuesta a alguna carta del oponente.


Evolzar Laggia (Quick Effect: Esta puede ser activada durante cualquier turno y para responder o encadenarse a otras cosas) Si le activan botomless puedes responder con su efecto ya que la velocidad entre cartas es la misma y pueden ser encadenables.

Casos especiales:Todos han visto que algunas cartas dicen algo similar a esto:
When this card is normal Summoned or special summoned
When this card is synchro Summoned
When this card is XYZ Summoned

Aqui entran x citar ejemplos:

Black Rose Dragon
Los Karakuris Burei y Bureido
E-HERO Stratos
Blackwing Blizzard
Scrap Chimera

En estos casos la prioridad no importa ya que su efecto se considera que sucede al mismo tiempo que su invocación y solo ocurre durante la misma. Ejemplos: Black Rose dragon, cualquier monarca, Gadgets, etc.

En Fin, las cartas que mas AUMENTAN en cuanto a que se requeriran o se veran mas seguido son: Veiler (Tiene 2 Rprint) Y Compulsory (Tiene 3 Reprints y es recontraconseguible) POr ende, no pegara tanto en lo economico esto, pero si en el juego.

POr ej:
Test Tiger se Come Chain Disaperance ahora, si no entiendo mal las cosas.
El conejo se puede para con Veiler, queda ahi congelado en el campo.
La carta que mas valor cobro (para algunos que aun no le daban pelot...) Es Compulsory, xq "Devuelve un monstruo dle campo a la mano" no dice "When yoor opponent summon/special summon, etc" x eso es encadenable al summon del rabbit tb.

Eso... No hagan un mundo de lo que no es. El sabado sale torneo para explicar las reglas jugando

Cato escribió:

CheCho escribió:Todos los Inzektors

Pregunta, que les cambia esto a los inzektors ?

Que tengan que esperar a la respuesta del oponente para intentar equiparse a otro chabon

Che Joel, la prioridad la sacó José.

Este queeeeee hola vengo a querer jugar de nuevo.

A los inzektors se la suda

Si Novo lo hizo José (el que te la re contra mil puso y se fue) jaja te cague

Che a todo esto compulsory de main va ahora? O-o

Cada uno ponne lo q le parece, para mi seguira todo igual...

claro porq todos los mazos juegan 3 prison, 2 bottomless y 2 warnings, 3 lanzas como los gladials...

a algunos no nos entran tanto soporte CANO!!!

Al rabbit tampoco lo perjudica tanto, es mas, me atrevoo a decir q hasta casi es mas benfiicioso, aunque la nena de Joel se la pase lllorando, jaja. Ahora podes detener a la mayoria de las cosas q amenazaban a tu laggia, REDMD, DAD, JD, son todoss parables con uun simplebottomles... y el conejo lo podes remover gual con veiler, total despues tiras. Leviair y lesto

A Pedido de Joaco---

Simplemente lo de siempre.

FAST EFFECT TIMING

Fast effects & Timing

Fast effects are card activations and effects with a Spell Speed of 2 or higher, including monster Quick Effects, Quick-Play Spell Cards, and Trap Cards (which includes both activating Trap Cards, and activating the effects of things like Continuous Trap Cards).

Fast effects can be activated by either player – even during their opponent’s turn, as long as the conditions are appropriate. When both players want to activate fast effects at the same time, they are placed on a Chain (see pages 38-41 of the v8.0 rulebook).

Sometimes, it can make a big difference WHO places their fast effect on the Chain first. This guide will help you figure out who, at any point in time, has the chance to activate the next fast effect (in other words, who gets to “go next”).

Usually, the turn player has the chance to “go next” and activate the next fast effect.

However, during a Chain, the chance to go next passes back and forth between players. (Chain rules: see pages 38-41 of the v8.0 rulebook.)

Also, if the turn player doesn’t wish to take any actions, and instead wants to move along in the turn (for example, to the next Step or Phase), the opponent has an opportunity to go next, and activate a fast effect, before the turn proceeds.

Follow the chart at the bottom to see which player can “go next” regarding fast effects.



Turn Player Actions

Each Phase and Step starts with the turn player in box A of the chart listed below. This is when the game state is “open”, meaning the turn player has complete freedom of action.

Many actions can ONLY be performed when the game state is open (when you’re in box A). Examples:

Normal Summon (including Tribute Summon)
Set a card
Perform a Special Summon that does not start a Chain (including Xyz Summon, Synchro Summon)
Change a monster’s Battle Position
Attempt to move to the next Phase/Step
Draw a card for your normal draw during the Draw Phase
Declare an attack
Activate an Ignition Effect
Activate a Spell Speed 1 Spell Card
If the game state is “open”, the turn player may perform any of the above actions that is appropriate. They can also choose to activate a fast effect, if they wish.



When Is the Game State No Longer “Open”?

Whenever either player performs an action, the game state is no longer open.



How Do I Make the Game State “Open” Again?

Basically, when nothing is going on, and neither player wishes to do anything, the game state goes back to being “open”.

Technically, this means:

IF the Turn Player has the chance to activate the next fast effect
AND the turn player passes to the opponent
AND the opponent then passes back
AND no Chain is currently being formed
…then the game state is open again.



How Does the Turn Move to the Next Phase or Step?

If the game state is open, and the turn player chooses not to do anything, and the opponent waives the chance to activate a fast effect, and both players agree to have the turn proceed, then you move to the next Phase or Step.

Jajaja cada vez q veo ese cuadro me parece mas faciil entender los apuntes del profesorado quue las reglas de Yugi jaja